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George S. Bardmesser's avatar

One more item that should be added to the list of China's weaknesses and lies: Debt to GDP ratio.

Officially it is only about 60-70%, but in reality it is at least 300%, and perhaps approaching 400%, or maybe even higher.

The numerator (debt) should include not just Beijing govt debt, but local government debt, various semi-off-the-books and off-the-books debt schemes (like LGFVs), SOE debt, China Rail debt (almost $1T). The debt that everyone ASSUMES Beijing stands behind adds up to north of $30T, possibly north of $35T - there is no reason to assume that the reported numbers for all these debts are a ceiling. They might be a floor, given how the CCP cooks the books on virtually every statistic.

The denominator (GDP) is just as opaque, but the official number (around $20T) is clearly an overestimate by probably 2x. Nobody really knows what it is, not even the CCP itself, but $8T-10T is a reasonable estimate. Taking the lower end number of $8T, and $35T of debt gives us a debt to GDP ratio of OVER 400%.

Now THAT is a scary number, if I were a Chinese economist. There is no precedent in history for a large economy of global significance with those kind of debt ratio numbers. It's hard to even imagine what the future holds, beyond acknowledging the complete unsustainability of this.

Francis Turner's avatar

"money will not run to Beijing. It will run from Beijing. It will not run to BRICS. It will not run to some fantasy “petroyuan.” It will not run to some multilateral currency scheme cooked up by Davos panels and Chinese state banks. It will run where money always runs in a real crisis: to the deepest, safest, most liquid market on Earth, the U.S. Treasury market."

Money is already running from Beijing. it may not (yet) be buying US Treasuries directly but it is buying crypto currencies, real estate in Singapore and Japan and elsewhere and so on.

A significant fraction of the exports we see are money laundering. Organizations export for cheap, get paid and don’t repatriate the money back to Beijing but keep it in USD,JPY etc. and invest in something in that currency

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