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Rod's Interview on "The China Desk"

A wide-ranging discussion on the China threat - and opportunity - from the Chinese Civil War to Trump's trade war today, how to avoid war, and how to advance liberty.

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by Rod D. Martin and Steve Yates
July 24, 2025

My latest interview on The China Desk, hosted by the Hon. Steve Yates, Senior Research Fellow for China and National Security Policy at the Heritage Foundation’s Asian Studies Center. Sign up NOW for The China Desk YouTube channel and don’t miss a single episode!

From the episode description:

“In this hard-hitting episode of The China Desk, host Steve Yates sits down with Martin Capital CEO Rod D. Martin for a wide-ranging conversation on U.S.-China relations.

“From PayPal's early disruption to the dangers of authoritarian AI, Martin traces how America’s economic leverage — and spiritual clarity — can counter the CCP’s ambitions. He breaks down China’s demographic collapse, fragile real estate economy, and the strategic importance of Trump-era tariffs and rare earth independence. This isn’t just about trade. It’s about liberty, reciprocity, and the moral battle for the 21st century.”


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