Thank you. A powerful piece, that should be required reading for every citizen, and potential citizens of the United States, especially those who favor the Democrat party.
My husband a Vietnam Veteran last week diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma, probable cause may be residual from Agent Orange.
Oldest son Afghan Veteran has device in back to help with injuries from that debacle. He also had cancer at 15! Maybe connection from Agent Orange. Many sub consequences. We either sacrifice to win or not go!
"The Vietnam War was part of a noble, epic struggle — the same struggle that won the Cold War and saved the whole world from a similar fate."
Yeah, not even close. The OSS for runner to the CIA gave Ho Chi Minh money and guns to fight the Japanese. His hero was Thomas Jefferson, and he looked at the US as the great liberator from colonialism.
Like so many times in our history, we stabbed the people in the back we once supported. At the behest of the French who could not beat their way out of a wet paper sack with both ends opened we wanted to help them "restore" French Indo-China.
This left Ho with no alternative but to seek help from the communist pack of the USSR and China. Just like today in Ukraine, we are responsible for the war.
This is not to degrade those who fought for their country, thinking they were given an honorable mission. One only needs to look today at Vietnam to see even more evidence of all this being true. While they are not per se a Jeffersonian republic, they are one of the Asian versions of the economic version of it. They have, as much as possible, given the devastation we inflicted on them, reverted back to the mean of Ho's vision for his nation.
No one was speaking of Pol Pot. You can make the case that us destabilizing the region brought him to power. Now that is a harder case to make given all the variables. But you cannot say what happened after the war in the South happened in a vacuum.
Hell, what happened in the South during and after the Civil War was not much different if you look at the real history. And I don't hear many calling, Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman out for the trash they were.
If you think Pol Pot was the only one committing mass murder in Southeast Asia, you really don't know your history (and didn't bother to read the article either).
LOL, "Once again, a Democrat President abandoned our allies, violated our commitments, and handed victory to the forces of barbarism."
The original betrayal was of Ho. None of it had to happen, you are missing the point. Ho was not a natural ally of the communists, quite the opposite.
Two things can be true at once. The question is, did one lead to the other? Let us try this here.
Say, the UK or France you chose came in and decided in 1860 it wanted the south, given it was the fourth largest economy in the world. Then set about a war against the North for not accepting that outcome.
The North had to get help from Russia, no USSR at the time to win. They won and/or the South just gave up because the French left them out to dry.
Now, what do you suppose the North's reaction in the aftermath would have been for those in the South? Hell, I don't have to imagine. The North in the CW launched the war of Neckade Argression against a free people and set about subjugating them for decades after the fact.
You are smarter than this. Picking up history at the date you prefer. Just like the Climate Cultists do.
None of this is to take away from those who fought. I am a third-generation vet who spent two years on the front lines of the Cold War in West Germany, flying missions to monitor the East. And watched has the HS classes right before me were drafted and come back in body bags.
LOL, ironically sitting here watching clips of Apocalypse Now and CBS footage in Vietnam on the Warroom.
Ho was a Communist and a mass murderer. And it really doesn't matter what he was in 1975 when we sold out our allies, because like millions of others, by then he was dead.
No, it matters what he was in 1945, our ally. We sold him out. The war was our fault, full stop, you may not like it, but it is the fact of the matter.
Great post and agree with everything. My one concern is that there is no mention of setting or defining a goal or an end game. In other words, how do we know when we've won? And then what? Can we leave? If not, when?
Thank you. A powerful piece, that should be required reading for every citizen, and potential citizens of the United States, especially those who favor the Democrat party.
Thank you. Nam, '69.
Thank you Rod this was excellent!
Will definitely pass it on.
My husband a Vietnam Veteran last week diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma, probable cause may be residual from Agent Orange.
Oldest son Afghan Veteran has device in back to help with injuries from that debacle. He also had cancer at 15! Maybe connection from Agent Orange. Many sub consequences. We either sacrifice to win or not go!
Most important we remain under
the “shadow of the Almighty”
"The Vietnam War was part of a noble, epic struggle — the same struggle that won the Cold War and saved the whole world from a similar fate."
Yeah, not even close. The OSS for runner to the CIA gave Ho Chi Minh money and guns to fight the Japanese. His hero was Thomas Jefferson, and he looked at the US as the great liberator from colonialism.
Like so many times in our history, we stabbed the people in the back we once supported. At the behest of the French who could not beat their way out of a wet paper sack with both ends opened we wanted to help them "restore" French Indo-China.
This left Ho with no alternative but to seek help from the communist pack of the USSR and China. Just like today in Ukraine, we are responsible for the war.
This is not to degrade those who fought for their country, thinking they were given an honorable mission. One only needs to look today at Vietnam to see even more evidence of all this being true. While they are not per se a Jeffersonian republic, they are one of the Asian versions of the economic version of it. They have, as much as possible, given the devastation we inflicted on them, reverted back to the mean of Ho's vision for his nation.
Yeah, because Jefferson was known for his genocides and concentration camps.
No one was speaking of Pol Pot. You can make the case that us destabilizing the region brought him to power. Now that is a harder case to make given all the variables. But you cannot say what happened after the war in the South happened in a vacuum.
Hell, what happened in the South during and after the Civil War was not much different if you look at the real history. And I don't hear many calling, Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman out for the trash they were.
If you think Pol Pot was the only one committing mass murder in Southeast Asia, you really don't know your history (and didn't bother to read the article either).
LOL, "Once again, a Democrat President abandoned our allies, violated our commitments, and handed victory to the forces of barbarism."
The original betrayal was of Ho. None of it had to happen, you are missing the point. Ho was not a natural ally of the communists, quite the opposite.
Two things can be true at once. The question is, did one lead to the other? Let us try this here.
Say, the UK or France you chose came in and decided in 1860 it wanted the south, given it was the fourth largest economy in the world. Then set about a war against the North for not accepting that outcome.
The North had to get help from Russia, no USSR at the time to win. They won and/or the South just gave up because the French left them out to dry.
Now, what do you suppose the North's reaction in the aftermath would have been for those in the South? Hell, I don't have to imagine. The North in the CW launched the war of Neckade Argression against a free people and set about subjugating them for decades after the fact.
You are smarter than this. Picking up history at the date you prefer. Just like the Climate Cultists do.
None of this is to take away from those who fought. I am a third-generation vet who spent two years on the front lines of the Cold War in West Germany, flying missions to monitor the East. And watched has the HS classes right before me were drafted and come back in body bags.
LOL, ironically sitting here watching clips of Apocalypse Now and CBS footage in Vietnam on the Warroom.
Ho was a Communist and a mass murderer. And it really doesn't matter what he was in 1975 when we sold out our allies, because like millions of others, by then he was dead.
No, it matters what he was in 1945, our ally. We sold him out. The war was our fault, full stop, you may not like it, but it is the fact of the matter.
Great post and agree with everything. My one concern is that there is no mention of setting or defining a goal or an end game. In other words, how do we know when we've won? And then what? Can we leave? If not, when?
Completely agree. Nixon covers this well in No More Vietnams.